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Those of us waiting to see how former Governor and presumptive G.O.P. presidential nominee Mitt Romney would answer the running mate question were finally given the answer: seven term Wisconsin congressman Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee.
Without a doubt, it’s a bold move considering that historically presidential candidates generally steer clear of picking a sitting member of the House as the second name on the ticket, mainly because, in representing their state, depending on which they hail from, they only represent a small portion of it (Ryan himself is one of five Congressmen from Wisconsin). In fact the last time a Republican Candidate picked one was in 1964 by then Arizona senator Barry Goldwater (New York Congressmen William Miller) in his unsuccessful attempt to unseat LBJ. The last Presidential Campaign period to have a sitting member of Congress being the campaign of Walter Mondale in 1984 when he selected Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate.
Perhaps it’s a statement about the effect of New Media and the Internet in politics. The profile of any sitting congressman, or any representative can be pushed to the forefront, as Ryan had been with his budget plan. They are no longer relegated to a quick sound-byte on the news or a short blurb in the paper. They can be elevated to stardom by the blog-o-sphere and given hero status within their respective party, having a chance to gain a following from across the country. For whatever strengths Ryan might have otherwise had, he became a household name by that factor alone.
Still, the question remains, was Ryan the best possible choice for a Romney ticket?
Let’s start by asking the question of why Governor Romney chose Ryan.
The governor’s inherent strength lies in the state of the economy. If there is going to be a single issue that propels him to the win in November it’s going to be this. The problem he’s facing is that this is also where President Obama and the Democrats are hitting him the hardest, and some recent polls show that voters are not quite as optimistic as they once were about Romney’s ability to fix the economic problem.
Enter Paul Ryan, a number cruncher, much like Romney himself. He’s there because the Romney campaign believes that he is capable of infusing new life into their economic strategies and sell it to the American people. They want to bridge the gap. They’re hoping that by picking a candidate primarily known not just for criticizing, but putting forward his own solutions, he’s able to pull them over a hill they have been having a hard time getting over.
As noted earlier, the last Republican presidential campaign to put a sitting congressman on the ticket was the Goldwater campaign, but the last successful presidential ticket to do so was actually the Franklin Delano Roosevelt campaign in 1932, when he picked Speaker of the House John Nance Garner. Running on an economic platform during the toughest economic climate in American history, they successfully unseated incumbent Herbert Hoover who was seen as not doing enough to alleviate the stresses of the Great Depression. The main difference here is that Romney and Ryan do not have the core ideological differences that FDR had with his Southern conservative running mate.
What’s more is that Ryan answers the question of Romney’s conservative credentials.
Hammered away at during the primary season as being, as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich put it, “The Massachusetts Moderate,” the governor needed to make himself more palatable to the right. Ryan is, for lack of a better term, a policy wonk who’s defined his career by the issues. Where some have tried to, both successfully and unsuccessfully, label Romney as a flip flop artist, they have no such case when it comes to the congressman. In the end, as the old saying goes, “What you see is what you get” and what conservatives see is one of them at the table. It alleviates the fear of being left out in the cold if they go to the polls for Romney, making it easier for them to actually cast their vote for him.
Yet, the problem is that’s not the whole picture. There is, without a doubt, a Ryan problem as well.
For one there is no diversity on the ticket. Romney/Ryan is not a barnstorming, dynamic ticket. It’s essentially two men who are, in many respects, the same, playing off each others strength while doing very little to actually cover each others weaknesses. The only thing Ryan brings that’s essentially different is how he will sell the campaign messages, but outside of that he is a known commodity. Perhaps they’re trying to offset the core differences that occurred between Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin in the last election, but there were other ways to do that with candidates that contrasted better with Romney.
In that sense, for as much as they are trying to gain back ground, that’s all they are doing, rather than giving voters even more reasons to vote for the ticket, as they might have done by picking a popular governor or senator who could speak to different issues than Romney. Even if Ryan does appeal to conservatives, it’s the fiscal conservatives who would vote for Romney for the same reason they would vote for a Romney/Ryan ticket.
With that in mind, the question then has to be what will he do to bring in the Independents and the class of voters still known as Reagan Democrats? Let’s face it, the budgetary plan Ryan proposed does very little to actually appeal to them, and, even if it does, it is certain that the Obama campaign will characterize it, as it already has in the past, as going too far and being too extreme. Since the Romney camp, to this day, has yet to find a way to counter Democratic attacks on its economic policies, there has to be a question of just how they are going to counter the attacks on Ryan’s.
What’s more, there is little chance that Ryan is going to deliver his state. In the past ten elections Wisconsin has gone Democrat for seven. It hasn’t swung for the Republican’s since Reagan’s successful campaigns of 1980 and 1984. Ryan does not represent enough of the state, one of five congressmen from it, to give them an accurate view of how Wisconsin is going to shape up, and, chances are if Wisconsin, for the first time in over a generation, does go Red, it’s going to go that way for a host of other factors, of which Ryan plays no part . It will be because of the same wave that swept in Governor Scott Walker and Senator Ron Johnson, as well as Democrat anger over being left out in the cold by President Obama during the recent recall effort in the State.
Where Ryan may have a national profile, that profile has never been tested in a statewide race or even one that has had national attention. Winning a congressional district 60-38 in a state that has more than one representative, as was the case in Ryan’s last and best race, doesn’t help in predicting how a candidate will do in carrying his own state in a presidential election.
However it may end up stacking up in the grand scheme of the presidential race, well that’s a different question for a different time, and one that perhaps won’t have to wait until the campaign post mortem to be seen. It will be made pretty clear pretty early on if this was the right choice. Really the question is going to be a matter of how Governor Romney cleans up the image mess he has so far in the campaign, because in the end, if he doesn’t do that, it doesn’t matter who he chooses as his running mate. If something isn’t right on the top of the ticket, then chances are people aren’t going to take the time to see who else is on it.
The truth is if he doesn’t fix “the vision thing,” then chances are “America’s Comeback Team” is going to end up being “America’s Also Ran Team”.
This is fantastic! With your experience, knowledge and wisdom you should be a professional political pundit with your own TV show! You always hit the nail right on the head in your assessments. Great job on a well written piece; it’s clear, concise and brutally ‘to the point.’ Someone ought to send this to Mitt Romney. If he hired you, a real strategist, instead of these other jokers, he might actually have a dang chance of winning!
Nobody could make the voters like Mitt Romney. That’s his problem. He is the Jimmy Carter of today, without the incumbency bonus.
I think Ryan will be better for the country than Romney. Thanks for sharing your blog! http://www.segmation.wordpress.com
Would definitely be interesting to see what role Ryan would play in a Romney administration.
Your insight is spot on in many ways. I think the bigger picture is in asking why has America let itself get lied too for so long? Propaganda and mud slinging has taken precedence over issues. The big problem is NOT who sits in the white house but rather what are we going to do to fix the most corrupt congress in history? Without fixing simple things like term limitations on congressional seats and eliminating the idea of committees meeting in back-scratching sessions behind closed doors, things will never progress. The fact that a simple Bill with a good idea or cause is polluted with five times the amount of garbage attached depreciates the system. Outlaw lobbying and the corporate buyouts of our government. Make the people we hire and overpay to represent us actually do their job. Throw all the stones you want at either candidate and you have fixed NOTHING! Fire Congress and hold them in contempt and for conspiracy against governmental progress. If you haven’t seen the documentary film entitled “Casino Jack, The United States of Money” I highly recommend starting there to get an idea of what has happened to D.C. If you want more inside information and a few stories that should make you laugh please check out my e-book ” A Fly on the Wall, a Bartender’s Perspective” at http://secretsofabartender.wordpress.com/ Let’s see if we can’t encourage people to see through the smoke-screens and realize this not a democracy but a republic and it takes more than one person to make it work and more importantly it’s supposed to work for everyone.
It was the exact same conservative economic ideology and policies promoted by the republicans that caused the stock market crash of 1929. That led to a recession and then the depression when Hoover went down the path of austerity just as the Tea party wants to do now. Those same conservative economic ideology and policies such as deregulating the finance sector championed by Reagan, Clinton and Bush 1 and 2 have simply allowed history to repeat itself. Romney’s choice of Ryan as veep simply confirms my suspicion that the real goal of conservative republicans is to intentionally destroy our nation economically. In order to impose their economic policies which have caused so much harm in other nations that they have to be imposed by force simply because the majority of the citizens will not vote for them in an election.
Interesting and thorough analysis. The thing about the VP announcement that interests me most: Why did Romney introduce his VP running mate — perhaps the biggest news of the election in months — at 6 a.m. Pacific Time on a Saturday? Why did the leak happen Friday night? These are notoriously the ideal times to announce bad news in a news cycle, considering so few people are at their computers/TVs. And during the Olympics?!?! The whole thing is suspect to me…
It has to make you wonder, absolutely, especially since you usually wait until the Convention to name your running mate, and not before… Especially not before considering the bump you usually get from it. Anyways a lot to ponder I suppose! Thanks for the comment, hope to see you back
I read somewhere that they had planned for a Friday primetime announcement, but this was delayed due to Ryan attending a memorial in his district. It’s still an odd choice of moment in many ways, though.
two attractive men running, guess we can count on more female votes for the republicans
Definitely jealous of their hair
I got hold of a secret Romney memo which sets out the reasons behind Mitt Romney’s decision to draft Paul Ryan: andreasmoser.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/why-did-romney-pick-paul-ryan/
It still comes down to do we want to go down the stiffling road Obama wants to take us or have we had it will all the partisan lies.
Definitely one way to look at it, though, if Governor Romney doesn’t make some campaign changes then there isn’t going to be much chance of him mounting a serious challenge in the months to come. Perhaps Congressman Ryan will be the turning point for that though.
The Romney campaign is a very sad thing. And, no, unlike what another commenter said, Romney is nowhere in the same league as Jimmy Carter. Romney isn’t going to win anyway. The Obama campaign simply takes on the challenger, does not get overconfident, and wins. Simple is that. But the media needs a horse race so we have one. Romney is so desperate that he didn’t even bother with his party’s convention to announce his running mate.
There are a great number of things that the Obama campaign is doing right at the moment, while the Romney campaign seems to be floundering. I offered a few insights into where they are going wrong today, hoping to get the chance to look at the Obama campaign tomorrow. Either way, it is definitely an interesting “horse race” to watch just from a purely strategic point of view, lots of lessons in it.
Very good and thoughtful analysis, am not one for politics, but I can say this very clearly; there is a moral compass on display in this 2012 election and I sincerely hope, well meaning and sincere Americans will see through all the smokescreens that is displayed out there.
There is no time that this is every more resounding than now that the very future of all mankind seems to be at stake (because come 2013, what America does or doesn’t do directly and indirectly affects the whole world) most especially the young, old and less privileged in the society.
Thank you Rebecca, and I am with you, my honest, sincere hope and prayer is that voters show up to vote their conscience and that their conscience is turned to one nation, united in the cause of the greatest good for all people bound together in a common struggle for a better, brighter future.
Interesting. Thoughtful. Thank you.
Thank you! Hope you have a great week and that I see to back.
Excellent analysis. As an independent moderate, this seals Romney’s fate with me. He could have gone more moderate and appealed to those of us in the middle, but he went hard right, both fiscally and socially. That’s a deal breaker for me.
Thank you for your comments. It’s one of those things I had to question, how was the Ryan pick going to play out with Independents and Moderate to Right Democrats. Guess that answers that with, at least, one voter. Hope to see you around here often.
An excellent treatise. I’ve passed it on.
Thank you Gerry! I appreciate that. Hope to see you around here in the future.
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Thank you kindly.
I like Romney’s choice. Romney goes all in now. Like him or not, Ryan got some ideas that are actually different. Now America can really vote on something in November. Ryan’s approach reminds me of Barry Goldwater. Romney and Ryan might not be able to win just yet but they can pave the way for a new Reaganian era.
Ryan does seem like a good man, and one with a lot of ideas, it will be interesting to see him on the trail and how he’s able to articulate them during a national campaign. Not sure if comparing him to Senator Goldwater is the best though, especially considering how President Johnson was able to brand him as a reactionary extremist. Like him or hate him Goldwater had a lot more baggage going into ’64 then Ryan does now, which is probably better for the Congressman.
The winning team.This presidential election will put an end to the lies of the fanatic left.Mr. Mitt Romney will become the new president.(11-6-2012)God bless America.
It will definitely be interesting to see how they counter the Democrats, no question about that.
The Republican Party is just following a formula because they don’t know what else to do.
Romeny and Ryan is simply the new version of McCain and Palin. McCain and Romney are professional politicians who lack any principles and will say or do anything to stay in power. Ryan and Palin are the radical rightwing outsiders who never could be presidents themselves but who are useful for the party’s image in giving an appearance of principled legitimacy.
It’s nothing new. At this point, no one is fooled by the charade except diehard GOP loyalists.
Interesting thought, though I’m still not entirely sure I agree with you. Yes, there are some parallels, but Romney/Ryan is a different ticket than McCain/Palin for more reasons than they are similar, though if they meet the same fate it will be for a lot of the same mistakes.
It isn’t a perfect comparison, but the same type of thinking seems to behind both. My prediction is that Romney will have the same fate as McCain. They both seem out of touch in an extreme way.
I continue to see this as an election for Obama to lose. Obama at least has some charisma, something almost entirely lacking in Romney.
By the way, my criticisms are equal opportunity. The Democratic Party is often formulaic as well, just in a different way.
I get tired of the two party system. No good choice will ever come from it.
Obama is a fairly typical politician who in his campaign portrayed himself as something new and different, but of course we mostly got a continuation of Bush policies. Now, Romney is offered up as an alternative and yet all that Romneyportends is more of the same. I found humorous that a radio caller, a self-identified independent who prefers moderate Republicans, said that going by their records Obama seemed like the real Republican and Romney the real Democrat.
Benjamin, I agree with part of your assessment at least. At this point it is President Obama’s to lose if nothing changes along the way, in that sense you are right, Governor Romney will meet the same fate as Senator McCain if nothing changes or gives with his overarching strategy. I am hoping to go through some of the Obama strategy today, but needless to say his formula does work better, and, it’s in part, for the reason you say, he is more capable of connecting. This is one of the reasons why, in my article about the Romney campaign yesterday I said that the Governor needs to stop allowing the President to define the debate and the narrative like he is because otherwise he is going to end up chasing Obama the rest of the way.
I hear your frustration about the two-party system. Originally I come from a country with four parties represented in the federal scene (five until about ten years ago) and where a new party or a third party actually had a chance of representing something and have a seat at the table. What I can say is that, while no party is perfect, a see a lot of people sharing your frustration, wondering why they always end up with something they don’t want when they are only given what they don’t want to vote for. Though I lean one way in the political spectrum it is why I tend to define myself as more of an independent than I ever did in years passed, I need someone to actually speak to me and, to some extent, wow me.
Truth in service is all I am looking for.Whoever takes the oath of office should consider truth in office.
Agreed, a government of the people should be beholden to the people, and bound to them in truth and justice
A WORD FOR THE WISE
Internationalism will still prevail, irregardless, of what hand picked stooge enters the race to spend other people’s money, for the sake of imposing the scheme of a hellish- bound pseudo Democracy in the hands of fools !
Very thoughtful and thorough. Thank you.
Appreciate that! All the best
thank you
You are welcome!
Two priviledged white guys who don’t care about retirees, the middle class, Blacks, Hispanics, or the poor are not going to unseat Obama.
Why would you assume that the well being of all of those people is not directly linked to the well being of America? Unless you feel that government dependence is the answer for Blacks, hispanics, the poor and the middle class(?)
I believe the blog was well written and contained ample content; however, to say two white guys who don’t care about American citizens is a huge statement to make. No one man is perfect (including Obama) and don’t believe everything you see on the news. Great blog!!
Agreed… Whoever is elected president is elected president over all America, not one race of Americans.
I really do not know what happened to my good old Republican party. Why the need to go so extreme and to push anyone who is remotely leaning towards the middle out of voting for the party?
I can’t be hardline. I am a Christian and I volunteer in a computer lab in an employment agency/food bank. I see so much venom spewed on Facebook and blogs towards the poor. Screaming for drug testing and calling them lazy. Yet, I spend my day helping people who are elderly, that lack computer skills, and who are lost. Many just want to work but can’t get through the online circus to reach a real person for a job interview. I helped a 69 year old widower apply for welfare last week and she had 26 dollars in her account. These are the real faces of the people that most are screaming about.
We need a real way to help people be more successful. Even Social Security limits the amount of hours people can work and still receive benefits. Many of the disabled with a job want to work more versus sitting alone at home. The problem is not with the poor who get welfare…the problem is with a system that does not create a way to move on.
Good post! You have a lot of valuable insight.
Thank you for the comment and the kind words, as well as your thoughts. I am with you in a lot of senses, mostly in the fact that people’s frustrations with government programs turn to anger and anger turns to misconception. The truth is, if we are going to build a better nation, we need to do so as a nation, one that strives for the betterment of all people, not to eliminate a social safety net but the need for one. Hope to see more of you here. All the best
Excellent post. I like the Ryan pick… Given Ryan’s congressional record, I think this was a pretty big statement by Romney.
They definitely had a motivation behind picking Ryan. It will be interesting to see how it pays off in the long run, but I will agree it is a bold move. Hope to see you around.
Thoughtful post. Congrats on being Freshly Pressed. I am still in shock at this choice, although perhaps I shouldn’t be. It is bold, but hard to say that it is wise. No one will get Democrats out to the polls like Paul Ryan, if you ask me. But we shall see. Thanks for a great post! Glad to find you!!
Yeah, the attacks have already begun, and it will be interesting to see how Ryan holds up under national scrutiny, that’s pretty much the question now that the choice has been made. Hope to see you around! All the best.
I just x’d out of “The Daily Beast” to get away from politics, and wham! Excellent piece, and a fair assessment. I’m trying so hard not to take sides in commenting on your blog because I find this site a respite from all the craziness out there. Well done.
Thank you Vincent! I am trying, myself to give a fair assessment without taking sides either, choosing rather to focus on the analysis of strategy. I hope to see you back again!
Your post was well though out and impressive.
As for Romney, I really wish he’d picked Rubio. He could still have used Ryan in his staff later, still used his ideas.
Oh well, time to brace for the mudslinging!
Thank you Hikari, I appreciate the kind words. You’re definitely not alone in that wish by the way, there would have been a definite advantage to Romney if he had picked Rubio, the question though is a matter of what advantage would Rubio have had he accepted if offered.
It’s going to be hard for the GOP with hysterical Liberal media hammering home half truths at every opportunity and what few conservative outlets there are left divided on the message or represented by individuals even loonier than those who represent the Libs.
Perhaps but, historically, newspapers and media have always aligned themselves politically, the Chicago Tribune out here was owned by Robert McCormick, a staunch Republican whose family, generations before, used the paper to help elect Lincoln, while the Chicago Sun-Times was a largely progressive/liberal outlet. the only real difference now days is that the news sources don’t outright say their allegiances even as they wear them on their sleeves, and their influence has slipped considering they are no longer the only game in town these days. That being said, if the Republicans, and Governor Romney, wants to get past that then the focus needs to be in setting an exceptional message, and selling it, he needs to work on his political brand and make certain that it is something strong and dynamic. Whatever one may say about the Media, it is still a business, it’s products it’s stories, and they need to give the people what they want. The Governor and his campaign needs to work on making certain what the people want are strong stories about him and his plan.
Very well written and provocative post. Kudos to you, it’s hard to touch a topic regarding politics, especially politicians, people will have different opinions and point of views about them.
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“The truth is if he doesn’t fix “the vision thing,” then chances are “America’s Comeback Team” is going to end up being “America’s Also Ran Team”. You could be right, but America also needs a lot more than 2 guys claiming to fix “the vision thing”. Regardless of how smart Romney and Ryan are, these 2 guys, by themselves, can’t fix our “vision” or our problems. This also applies to Obama and Biden. Read my article 55 YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH, (www.noulteriormotive.com a WordPress website), about getting the undivided attention of the president and congress. We can pontificate the pros and cons of this choice, or that choice, but so far that hasn’t improved a thing. Until American voters turn out in full force and let everyone in Washington know we are fed up with their shabby performance, I can’t see a whole lot changing in the future, near future or otherwise.
I’m not sure how valuable Ryan’s appeal to the right is- how many conservative votes does Romney lose on being seen as a moderate compared to the number of centre votes he may lose by running with a die-hard conservative?